Is Ulta's rewards program a total knockout or a beauty faux pas? The Loyalty Program Slam is putting the program under the microscope! We're diving deep into points, perks, and prestige to see if it's a mascara miracle or a lipstick letdown. Get ready for a beauty breakdown!
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>> Welcome back to loyalty programs,
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Slam. I'm your host, Amber Collins,
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Product Marketing Manager here at
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Annex Cloud, your comprehensive and agile
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SaaS solution for enterprise loyalty management.
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The loyalty programs Slam is jam-packed with
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real-world commentary on some of
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the world's most beloved loyalty programs.
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Here's how it's going to work.
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Each Slammer has roughly two minutes to state
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their case on these four areas,
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program design, value proposition,
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engagement, and performance.
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Our Slammers are going to get points for
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Slams which could be excellent one-liners,
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debunking each other or just generally be an awesome.
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Today's Slammers are Alex, Head of Strategy,
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Scott, Director of Product Solutions,
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and Elise, Senior Graphic Designer.
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Today's program Slam is drum roll,
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please Ulta Beauty Rewards by Ulta.
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Ulta is a well-established program.
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I'm talking about it's 24 years old,
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it was launched in 2000,
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and it has evolved over time.
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It now offers a comprehensive set of benefits and
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a strong focus on customer engagement.
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This is beauty retail.
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Estaggering 90 percent of Ulta's sales come from
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its loyalty program members,
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of which they have 42 million members.
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The competitors include Sephora,
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Macy's, Department Source of Beauty sections,
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and even drug stores.
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They've got a tiered structure,
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a free membership program that increases
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the benefits for this higher tiers,
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multiple earning opportunities,
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they've got birthday gifts which I personally have
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taken advantage of, reviews,
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and social media engagement,
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considering that they hear all these brands,
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aggregating those experiences,
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I can imagine could be really important for this program,
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especially when we're talking about beauty.
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The variety of awards include those discounts for products,
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exclusive offers.
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They even offer salon services in stores,
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so their program is hooked up to their salon services.
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They've got a mobile app,
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so personalized recommendations.
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Again, I think that these are all things that are
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really, really important in the beauty space,
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and they also have a credit card offering.
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Let's jump right into it, at least.
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Give me your case for Ulta Beauty Rewards.
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>> I think Ulta Beauty Rewards is doing a lot of things right.
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They have a large differentiation between the tiers.
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One thing that really stands out is that points don't
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expire at the higher tiers.
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I thought that was a huge advantage over other programs,
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and it just incentivizes people to keep using the program
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and get to those higher tiers.
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Another thing that they have is you can use
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your points for discounts on products of your own choosing,
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in addition to services.
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Sephora, for example, you get opportunities for
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redeem points for discounts, but they have bucket of items to choose from.
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You can't necessarily just use your discount on anything that you want.
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You might have a bunch of points,
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but you might not have anything that you really want to redeem them for.
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I think that is a huge advantage for this program too.
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I think that they also have fun interactive experiences in the app.
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They have a glam lab where you can virtually tie on products before you buy.
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Maybe it is more accurate in helping you
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picking out shades of different makeup that you want,
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that you weren't necessarily knowing what to choose based on descriptions or sw
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atches.
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There's a couple of things that I think that they could change.
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For example, on their website,
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they're using rewardiest and rewardier.
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It's these made up terms,
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and I'm probably not the target for it, to be honest,
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but it just didn't really appeal to me.
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Overall, their look and feel is just more youthful.
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I think it's just targeted towards the younger demographic.
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They have anything from drugstore to high-end luxury brands.
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If you look at Sephora, they have more sophisticated up and feel,
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but aside from their house brand,
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they lean towards all high-end and luxury.
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Over the last few years,
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Altus brought in more of these high-end and luxury brands
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trying to appeal to more consumers.
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I think that that's an opportunity for them to reevaluate their branding
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overall,
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and update the looking feel of things if they're going to bring on such a huge
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variety.
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Overall, I just think it's a really great program design.
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It's easy to use, it's easy to navigate.
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There's a huge opportunity to earn points.
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Another thing that I think could be changed or improved
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is that you do have to activate bonus rewards manually.
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I was just in the app this weekend,
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and they had an overall 20% discount for the holiday,
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but then there are a ton of different other things that you'd have to manually
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activate.
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I just think, as we've discussed with other programs,
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just give people the discounts.
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That's my true sense.
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- Appreciate it.
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Scott, how are you feeling about Altus Beauty Rewards?
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- My wife shops there quite a bit between herself and my daughter,
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who's a competitive dancer, needs a lot of makeup.
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Between the two, our household is an Altus rewards family.
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I base a lot of what I'm about to say based on her interaction.
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My quick interview over the dinner table.
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Loves the member pricing, loves the brand, loves the stores,
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loves the convenience, loves that it's in target,
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is excited about the target circle and rewards partnership.
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So we can earn a cross shop, especially because they have
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those little mini shops within targets and the advocates walking around,
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helping people pick out stuff within that area.
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But it is really centered around the transaction.
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They are doing a couple things here and there.
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We're just to kind of get to know you as a beauty brand should.
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But what it's missing are more interactive things.
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Things like shows that your overall prom makeup show us your overall dance fro
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ck.
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Do all of the things where people are more advocate rather than just shopper.
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So if you are just looking for a discount shopping experience, then it's fine.
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But I think people want to generally show off or,
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we've seen that with other beauty brands where they want to be advocates,
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they want to be their own influencers in this space.
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So I feel like this brand is missing that next step, that community aspect.
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They have the shops, they have your dollars coming in.
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But do they take it to the next level?
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Are they guaranteeing that you're not going to second shop at some of these
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other places to get some of the other things?
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Yeah, to Lisa's point about the branding and its doing younger.
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We know that younger folks want that community.
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We know that younger folks want to be seen.
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We know that they want to be recognized for their creativity.
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They want to be recognized for their ability.
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And makeup is one of those places that is, you know, pretty accessible when it
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comes
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to shelving off that creativity and pretty accepting as well.
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That's a spectrum of gender and presenting and age and just really people
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just coming into their own, you know, art, beauty and makeup.
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It's an artistry and people really take pride in it.
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I think it's one of those industries where like you said,
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it's super easy to build a community.
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People want to advocate, people want to show off,
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people want to be seen, people want to be rewarded for it.
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And then to slap that Ulta brand on it and say, this is where you get it from.
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And maybe even make that experience where you put this community now shoppable.
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And with all this tech that we've got going on,
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Ulta's already got a lot of tech built into this user experience,
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as Lisa mentioned, there's certainly a lot of opportunities there.
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So Alex, love to hear what you think.
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Yeah, well, I was in the beauty space for about two years.
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It's interesting having assessed Ulta a number of different times.
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I do think from a positive standpoint, I'm aligned with a lot of what the team
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said here.
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I do like that you can select your birthday gift.
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You know, I do think they give you a lot of different increments in which you
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can redeem.
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So you can redeem three bucks off with 100 points, which is nice.
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So, you know, they're kind of doing like a 3% back in a way.
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I would say that most of beauty or high-end beauty and brands,
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specifically with their programs like Clarins or Estee Lauder,
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a lot of brands are doing more like 5% back.
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So I do think they're a little under there.
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I will say that having looked at Sephora,
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they're more like a 2% give back.
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And then Mercury and Macy's are kind of hovering around that 2% to 3% as well.
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So I can see where they're going for their competitors, which is fine.
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I do wish that there was more in their catalog.
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So Sephora lets you get samples or full-size products.
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Ulta just has discounts.
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And so to me, it's just kind of lackluster and very transactional.
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I do like some of the tiering where you can unlock $10 coupons as you move up
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in tiers,
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you get special gifts.
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So those are kind of nice.
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And then the one really cool thing that I saw recently that came out
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was their new sample dispensers, where you can basically check in at the
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dispenser.
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And it's kind of like a gumball machine.
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It drops a sample to you because you're a member.
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I thought that was a really, really clever thing that I think they need to do
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more things like that.
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Because I think their overall structure of their design is a little lackluster
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and doing more of these more interesting engagement opportunities
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and getting more ways of people to come into the store and engage with the
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product.
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Like you said too, rewarding people for their social behaviors,
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being influencers or ambassadors of the program.
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I think they're just missing a lot of interesting ways to elevate it.
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That being said, they do mention that you're joining a community of 42 million
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people.
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I've seen Ulta present a number of times at conferences
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and their credit card numbers are insane.
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Their active rates are really high.
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So they're clearly working very well.
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But I think they really need to take it to the next level.
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I think it's a little boring.
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It's a 24 year old program.
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I mean, I'm sure there's been so much evolution of it.
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I'm glad to hear that they are keeping up with a lot of things.
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Like we said, there's a lot of tech here in this user journey,
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which I think is important in the beauty space as well.
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So definitely lots of opportunities here for Ulta.
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So let's get into the scoring.
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Elise, how are you going to rate the program design?
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I gave it a four.
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I do think I know that everyone's saying it's really transactional,
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but actually for beauty, I don't know if I necessarily
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mind that as much.
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Just I like having control of what I want to put my points towards
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versus just being able to choose from a bucket of like a couple sample sizes of
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things.
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I think that's more enticing to me on a personal level.
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So you like the flexibility of that?
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Okay.
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Yes.
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Scott, how do you feel about the program design?
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Give it a two.
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Yep.
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For a program design, again, it's member pricing is huge.
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So I believe in the brand.
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And I believe that the brand has a genuine interest in the customers.
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From a program design, they're doing very little to know with the engagement of
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members on that social,
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like we just said.
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And they're missing a huge opportunity with a parent, child and household,
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because you can create a profile right now.
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My wife can create a profile and list all of her skin tone, her preferences,
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etc,
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which are 180 degrees different than my daughter.
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But when she goes to shop, it is my wife doing all of the primary shopping.
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So there's no way to really tie some of those together without having maybe two
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accounts.
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Then I've got a 17 year old account.
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So it feels weird then.
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And so I think that they can do more with the acknowledgement of the family,
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acknowledging more of the artistry, doing more with education,
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doing more to my comment earlier.
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I believe that they got your dollar anyway.
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But how can they turn you into an advocate and keep you from the Sephora?
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How can they keep you from the Amazon or any of the other brands out there?
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So that's your point of having the two accounts.
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I have plenty of friends that have daughters and whether they are fathers or
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mothers.
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Everybody knows that daughters like to shop and you've got either one account.
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And then all of a sudden, their friends at the mall spent all of your points.
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And if I'm the mother, I'm like, I was saving those points.
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Or you've got these two accounts, you've got to manage them.
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And it's like, maybe you did want to pull your points.
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Let's go on a shopping spree together.
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Like, let's put all the kids, let's put all the daughters, multiple daughters,
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situation or sons, let's be honest.
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So the household is a huge opportunity as well,
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but definitely Alex, how do you think about design?
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I gave it a two, it's just a MeToo table stakes program structure,
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while it is very successful as a program.
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It just doesn't have anything that's that exciting.
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Now, five years ago, 10 years ago, maybe would have given it more like a three
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and a half or a four.
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It looks like it's just kind of meeting its competitors where it needs to be.
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And that's it. I think that's a big mess.
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Understandable, fair enough.
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At least how do you feel about the Vyfop here?
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I also give it a four.
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I also give it a four. I just think they do have incentive to reach higher
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tiers.
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You know, platinum increases to one and a quarter points,
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diamond increases to one and a half points per spend.
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And I just think you can also spend the points on salon services.
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I mean, there are some other things that you can spend points on besides just
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discounts.
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I do think they do a good job to spend it, but also to earn it, right?
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Imagine you're going to Ulta and you're going to the salon service
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and you're not earning points against those interactions.
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I mean, that's one way to say, okay, then I'll go to a different salon because,
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you know,
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if I want my makeup, I'm going to go here for makeup.
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It's that meshing of those two sides of business units, if you will, right?
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The services with the products and making sure that there's no gap in between
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the earning or redeeming there, for sure.
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Right.
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Scott, how are you going to value?
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Give it a four.
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Okay.
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So here's why member pricing and what Elise mentioned, I can use my points
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however, whenever I want.
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When you compare to one of their biggest competitors with Sephora,
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one of the first sentences that comes out of why do you like Sephora?
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First three sentences are about those free samples, you know, birthday rewards,
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free samples, you know, those kinds of things.
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So I feel like to get that five, they have to kind of acknowledge some of those
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other things.
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But as far as your ability to earn, it's well understood, your ability to
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progress,
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it's well understood, it gets you coming back because I can use those points.
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So I gave it a four for overall program value.
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Okay.
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Alice.
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I gave it a three, I think it's just right in the average, it's give back is
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three percent versus a number of brands that are at five,
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but then they're core competitors.
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Sephora, Blue Mercury, Macy's, those are harder hurdles to get the actual
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dollars off and they have lower give back.
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So that's where I just kind of averaged them out at a three.
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Okay.
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Elise, engagement and experience.
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I mean, there's not a ton of engagement. I did give it a three just because
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they do have like the interactive experiences available in their Glam Lab app.
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There are some ways to engage and I do think people that are like beauty
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enthusiasts and really like the member program are going to be engaging with
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the app on a regular basis.
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There's always new makeup drops coming out.
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There's always new things to be excited about and I think that that members
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really involved in the beauty community are going to be engaging with
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with the program.
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Okay. So, Alex, how do you feel about the engagement and experience?
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I gave it a two just think it's a very transactional program, but a lot of room
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for improvement and taking advantage of opportunities to engage through other
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interactions.
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So a lot of white space for them. I just hope they take advantage of it.
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Good point there.
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Scott, talk to me about the engagement and experience of Ulta.
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Gave it a two because all the things that Elise was describing were for
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available for all customers.
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Yes, maybe you had to give it a little bit of information just to kind of gate
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keep it, but I didn't feel like it was a members only experience to be able to
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access those things.
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So again, as a company, I think that they're doing really well.
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I think that they're really engaging as a company for differentiation for their
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member base.
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I don't feel like we get any other benefit that my household gets any other
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benefit because we are loyalty members.
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I do believe that there is a general we're getting your dollars anyway and we
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're getting a few more things for you to stop and shop us.
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But there's no there isn't an opportunity to just be different for members and
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provide a unique experience for people who are going above and beyond.
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So could you say that when they when they get back to the 90% of transactions,
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I mean, I keep going back to this analogy of the shopper card, right?
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Like I'm there. I'm buying. I'm going to give you the information a because
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everybody's trained to ask for it.
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I don't think you know, I think you're like, hey, well, what am I missing out
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if you keep asking about it?
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Let me join it. But it's like you're just kind of going by and identifying
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yourself.
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So it is is 90% of their guess what I'm trying to say is 90% of their
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transactions with multi members simply because
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almost to their customer base is loyalty members and they're not necessarily
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growing it.
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I believe so.
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And they're not necessarily. Yeah, right?
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The very low cost, you know, like people time costs to enter into the program.
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It's very easy to join. It's very easy to redeem at point of sale and they're
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everywhere.
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They're in the targets. There are lots of convenient locations for stores.
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They're doing a great job as a company.
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But as far as a loyalty member base, there's really no differentiation.
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There's just people who have come back again. Yeah. Yeah.
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And that's not what to mean.
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I think that also differentiator for them is that is that they don't have all
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the brands that support us.
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They're not apples to apples on the brands. And that's what that absolutely
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gives people a reason to definitely go to Ulta or Sephora.
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But that's an opportunity for education of your loyalty members, right?
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People who are advocate for you as a brand teaching them that this other brand
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that you do carry can do these things.
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And maybe that's what you want to go. So again, this member education, there's,
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you know, how to, there's communities where people use their product and show
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how that one eye shadow or that, you know, one, you know, technique can be done
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using this other thing instead of the one that they're potentially used to
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because they happen to get it at a different store.
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Even as again, I think that the whole, the fact that this is a common number of
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brands that are in one place that you could get this from somewhere else.
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So what about it is the Ulta program that makes you want to get it specifically
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from Ulta?
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Well, I think it's a lot of it's kind of the grocery store mentality too, right
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? I can go to a butcher shop. I can go to a farmer's market.
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I have to make multiple stops. Having multiple brands under one roof is a one-
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stop shop for everything that you're trying to do there.
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But people specifically in the beauty brand, they have preferences based on
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application, based on color, scent and just skin reactiveness to certain things
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So they're acknowledging that, but I don't know that you walk in and it's
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overwhelming. You know, I'm going to go to the three things that I know and I'm
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going to get that.
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And if I happen to see something on the way or I happen to have heard about
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this other thing and I see it in my path, I know that, but you're trying to fit
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an entire grocery store into that footprint.
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And so it can be overwhelming. So how are they helping members to help me to
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educate members?
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I agree because most of that research happens before you get to the store.
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Yeah, I was going to say that's probably more of their like online opportunity
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than, although I mean, they do have store associates to help people too.
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But if you are doing that research beforehand, it's helpful to have that.
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But to that point though, those associates are going to help everybody in the
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exact same way.
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Not that members with experience.
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It's not like you walk in, you identify yourself as a member and you get a tri
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ad session, right?
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Or a technique session that other non-members can see and strive to get to
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achieve.
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No differentiation. They do a great job with their customer. Nobody is saying
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that they don't.
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They are beloved and they're everywhere. They've got great partnerships as a
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company, but as a member base,
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I don't know that you truly feel different than anybody else.
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Yeah, I think that rules right into the next metric, right? So at least what's
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your commentary on their performance?
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I did get them before. I think that they do have a lot of members and they have
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a lot of people are using the program.
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A lot of people like the program. I think it is effective. Do they have our
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vision,
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use to grow and do other things and increase their engagement? Yeah, they do.
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But I think overall it is functioning very well as a program.
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And Alex, how do you feel about the performance?
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Performance I'd give a four just based on the knowledge that I have from the
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conferences that I've seen them present at.
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They're doing very, very well in terms of monetizing the program, driving
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credit card
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and a large amount of members when you consider the adult population in the US,
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like 42 million members is quite large.
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And they have a high active rate according to what they've shared in those
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presentations.
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So I've been impressed by that. Considering the program as it is, if they
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elevated and sophisticated even more,
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I think they could really knock it out of the park.
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I agree. I think the statistic of the 90% of their transactions come from
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loyalty.
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She tells us that this program is definitely providing a value. It's definitely
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engaging in people.
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And people are aware of it. I think most importantly as well in the store and
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online to use their program,
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to use their points. I think that that's a hallmark trait of a company culture
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of loyalty
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that is showing the results that we would expect when you treat loyalty the way
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that
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Altan has treated it. Well, to that point, if it is a central focus of the
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company,
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then it's a great opportunity for them to put together those strategies to
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elevate it and get approval for that and invest in it.
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So, so Elise can love it even more and give it a five.
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But the same reasons I gave it a three. Again, I believe that they've created a
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low cost of entry,
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low people time cost of entry into the program. So I think that a lot of their
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performance numbers
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are people who are customers anyway and are simply giving the email address,
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giving the phone number when they when they're doing the shop because it's
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convenient, right?
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It's very there's not a lot of headache as a part of that process.
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Would you have completed that shop anyway at that point if they hadn't asked
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you more than likely
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in my own opinion? So I think that there's a lot more of this community that
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they can be
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building and do more with, you know, education with family with, you know,
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household and stuff like that
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to really be different than a lot of others in their space. So I feel like I
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got a stick with a three.
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So overall the score for all the beauty of rewards is a 3.1. And of course we
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've got actually today
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Scott and Alex, you guys were tied at 2.75 and then Elise you were at 3.75. And
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I will say this,
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when you say 90% of your transactions are coming from multi members, I think
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that obviously we're
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in the loyalty space and that is a great number to say out there. But we go
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back to that mix of
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how much more did they spend because of the loyalty program? How much more did
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they,
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how many more times did they purchase if they were going to make this purchase
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anyways and it's
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90% of it then cool. But if they make 90% of the transactions came from multi
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members and 30% of
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that they weren't necessarily going to buy or 30% of it was products that they
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had never bought before
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and not just re-elping also they were already done. That to me is the
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performance that makes
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that number more impressive. It's an impressive number in and of itself but it
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makes it more
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impressive to me when you start to think about, okay, if this is like you
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started to get their
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dollars anyways, they're going to re-up on their makeup anyways, all to where
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they go get it.
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Where's the lift? Where's the incremental value that's put on top of that? And
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that's a number
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that I would love to understand when they talk about their 90% of their
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transactions come from
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loyalty. So with that being said, thanks everybody for the commentary today.
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The overall points will be
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posted. Awesome, thank you. Thank you.